Property versus Shares

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by Scott Pape - October 14th 2011

property shares better which investment rubix cube“I’M going to sell my apartment”, announced my girlfriend.

She may as well have been asking me to pass the butter, she was so cool, calm and collected – like a female Donald Trump (but with much, much more hair).

Her rationale?

She’d bought the apartment as a young single woman a few years ago. Thanks to the property boom she’ll trouser close to a hundred grand, and she hated the hassle of being a landlord.

Besides, she now lives in sin with me and my golden retriever – and by all accounts we’re pretty decent landlords.

Simple right?

Enter the parental peanut gallery: “Why would you want to sell – there’s nothing safer than bricks and mortar!” And: “You do know that Alan Kohler was on the ABC news last night saying that property had done better than shares!”

I knew where this was going: I was the ‘big bad shares guy’ who had convinced this smart, independent woman to sell her hard-won asset, and in a slowing market no less. Though it wasn’t true, I was chuffed that both sets of parents believed I held such sway over my girlfriend.

Shares vs Property

The shares vs property debate is one of those mortal battles – Ford vs Holden, Melbourne vs Sydney, Kochie vs Karl. Each has its diehards with their own set of statistics that prove that one is a better bet than the other.

Both arguments are pushed by vested interests: money managers rake in billions a year by taking a tiny slither of your investment and making it theirs (via asset-based fees), and there’s an entire industry of agents, banks, politicians and retailers that feed off a strong property market.

Share spruikers maintain that owning a business is more profitable than owning the shop (which explains why most banks don’t own the physical branches). Property pushers promote everyday millionaire landlords who’ve gotten rich by simply buying and holding homes.

But before we roll up your sleeves for some financial fisticuffs, let’s take a look at a report from ANZ Bank this week that pours cold water on both sides of the battle.

Property Wins

The ANZ report, Asset Returns: Past, Present and Future found that the highest returns over the past 24 years came from owning your own home.

The report suggested that on average owning a home generated an annual return of 12 per cent, even with costs and taxes factored in. Homes trumped both investment properties at 9.6 per cent and shares at 8.9 per cent.

No surprises there – I’ve always argued that owning your own home is the ultimate investment – but I wasn’t so sure about their calculations, especially when it comes to the tax breaks investments receive. So I called up one of the authors of the report, the head of property research for ANZ, Paul Braddick, for a chat.

He was refreshingly frank.

Barefoot: “Your report found that owning your own home comes out in front financially. Is this because you can sell it without being hit with capital gains tax?”

Braddick: “Well, that and the deregulation of the finance industry, which has facilitated a growth in prices.”

Barefoot: “Err … is that banker-speak for ‘over the last 20 years we’ve allowed homeowners to borrow a lot more dough?’”

Braddick: “Well, yes.”

What has fuelled housing priced over the last 20-plus years is a halving of interest rates – from around 14 per cent to 7 per cent. So while the cost of debt was falling, the bankers’ enthusiasm to lend increased.

The big winners were the Baby Boomers, who elbowed young first homebuyers out of the way at auctions, using the equity in their homes like an ATM machine. But there’s only one problem – for many Boomers the machine’s starting to run out of cash.

Shares Win

So while the ANZ report sung the praises of property over the last two decades, it’s not so hopeful for the coming decade. In fact it forecasts that shares are going to be the asset class to invest in over the next 10 years.

Despite Australians being among the biggest share investors in the world, I know that the thought of putting your money into the market scares the pants off many of you.

Each night when you get off work (and often in your lunch break) you can see exactly how much your share portfolio is worth. Sometimes that’s a pleasant experience – though not lately.

But it’s really no different than if you auctioned your home every single day – you’d be amazed at the differing daily prices, but wouldn’t be too fussed if you weren’t planning on selling that day.

Having easy access to your money is a good thing: you can’t sell off your second bedroom if you want to go to Bali at Christmas, but with shares you can – plus it’ll cost you the price of a pizza (in brokerage fees) and the dough will be in your bank account within a few days.

But what about the tax benefits of property?

While negative gearing is a socially acceptable way of saying ‘I’m losing money’, the tax breaks for both property and shares are, when all is said and done, equally generous, and for that matter equally ridiculous. (How we could have two government tax reviews yet still favour borrowing and speculating over getting out of bed and working is a testament to the power of politics.)

You Win

The ANZ report reinforces that owning your own home is a bloody good idea (so long as your can comfortably afford it and you aggressively work on paying down your mortgage).

But it also shows that it pays not to have all your eggs in the one basket. Besides sprucing up your super, it’s a smart strategy to start a small share portfolio – if for no other reason than to get your head around being a part owner of a successful business.

Or at least that’s what I’m telling my newly cashed up girlfriend.

Tread Your Own Path!



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29 comments

Jack October 14, 2011 at 8:48 am

You mean ‘a tiny sliver’ don’t you Scott?

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Scott Pape October 14, 2011 at 10:11 am

No, I meant ‘slither’

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AK October 14, 2011 at 8:33 pm

a snake ‘slithers’, a small slice is a ‘sliver’ although common usage seems to have changed recently for some reason. The dictionary hasn’t.

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Brian October 15, 2011 at 9:53 am

I think Scott is inferring money manager are snakes…

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Jack October 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm

The only ‘snake’ here is the poorly educated sub-editor using Scott’s good name and not accepting that a minor mistake was made. I shouldn’t have raised the issue. I thought that it would have been quietly corrected and my comment removed… never again!

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Chris October 14, 2011 at 2:31 pm

Ok you’ve finally convinced me Scott. I remember reading one of your articles on how to start a share portfolio. Do you have the link again? I cant find it. Cheers!

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Leonid October 14, 2011 at 2:54 pm

Scott,
While owing your home indeed may be the best investment, could you suggest how this investment can be protected? What is your “Barefoot” approach to asset protection? Cheers.

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Jane October 15, 2011 at 11:50 am

How to protect your assets?

That one is easy. Pay any debt in full and on time. Don’t be conned into stripping the equity out of your home for other investments and don’t have any relationships that last longer than how ever long it is now to be officially considered in a defacto relationship.

Oh and you have to be careful with your identity too so make sure you don’t have anything on the internet that will give an un-scruples person your name, address, age, dob, marital status or anything else that could be use to steal your identity. Shred everything with a military grad shredder (so no-one can put it back together). Make sure you get no mail so no-one can steal it…

In other words, you can not ever truly protect your assets but by not using your house as security for anything, whether its an investment property or equity dipping to fund a holiday and paying your debts in full and on time you can minimise the risk of losing it.

Of course you could opt for the no long relationships and being paranoid about your identity to the extreme but I wouldn’t advocate that path if you want a happy life.

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Adriane October 14, 2011 at 3:13 pm

Hi Scott,
Can you recommend a super fund with low fees and a good return. I feel my current super has sky high fees and not doing there job
Thanks Adriane

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Martin October 14, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Active property investment always wins over shares if you value add through a subdivision and/or develop property to suit the market instead of buying and hoping for a magical passive investment gain

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ricky racoon October 14, 2011 at 7:46 pm

Hi Scott,
can you recommend a good super fund to invest in, I am currently with AMP and they are reaming me with fees and the returns they are obtaining are woeful, Cheers

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Brian October 15, 2011 at 9:54 am

(and Adriane) – industry funds are pretty good. My wife is in an industry fund where the fees are 1/10 my retail fund and the performance is similar if not better. I’m moving

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Paul Sullivan October 15, 2011 at 5:31 am

This week our company is changing pay systems and announced that they will not pay us on the 15th Oct , it will be 1 week late. No Probs I thought…. Until most people complained about house/car payments, the gas/electricty/phone bill !! I asked them about the Mojo account for the rainey day AND the look at you like your from another world.. This same situation happen last year this time. Funny how people don’t change.

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John October 15, 2011 at 7:54 am

Scott for a youg bloke you wise old head. I enjoy reading your articles, as you alway provide good balanced commentary that I enjoy reading.

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Batman October 15, 2011 at 8:09 am

This article is grossly inaccurate: Scott doesn’t have a girlfriend.

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john October 16, 2011 at 5:13 pm

Is a girlfriend/partner a good investment? I suspect that it depends. A good partner can have excellent return on investment but a dud one can strip you of everything.

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Andrew October 15, 2011 at 9:37 am

Scott, you are a wise individual. I invest in the share market and I also have a small unit that I bought very cheap. A combination of shares and property is the real winner. I am passionate about investing in the market but when I try to talk friends and work mates into buying stocks I always get similar looks and reactions. At the end of the day your advice is invaluable and if people disagree with your advice they must remember: Nobody is forcing them to read your articles and opinions.

Keep up the good work, your doing a great thing for this country.

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Len October 15, 2011 at 9:38 am

Interesting piece Scott and well worth the read. Was the ANZ where Alan Kohler got his data? Nice piece of detective work and great insight.

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Stillgotshoeson October 15, 2011 at 11:36 am

If you are an active shareholder and take an interest in global economic activity you can outperform the property market by a long way.
Buying the index vs buying property is a much closer thing, over different time frames one has outperformed the other… over the longer term there is not that much difference. Even with property, like shares some areas will outperform other areas too.
Me personally, I have done well from shares over the last 8 years since my divorce. As a comparison:
The marital home has more than doubled in value since the ex and I split up. My portfolio has increased 5.4 times original value. Taking account of just interest costs the ex is 1.65 times in front. Taking account of monies in rent I have paid I am still 4 time up on original amount. I am now at a position that if I chose I could buy a median priced home in the suburb I live for cash. I have chosen not to at this stage as I still believe property prices have further to fall and that I will continue to see positive results from my portfolio. As I get older the consistent revenue stream from property will appeal more. A good portfolio should have a mix, that mix changes at different stages of life

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Andrew October 15, 2011 at 3:28 pm

Must have chosen the right stocks then Stillgotshoeson.
Most of the blue chips are DOWN with very unhealthy looking charts. Can’t blame people for being wary of stocks at the moment.

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Stillgotshoeson October 17, 2011 at 7:10 pm

Andrew, Best single “win” was GMG Goodman Property Group. 280000 @ 17 cents Sold them all @71.5 Cents
BOW Energy Bought at 92 cents Sold just over $1.50
PRU Bought at $2.75 Sold for $3.82 Have had many give me 20% to 25% returns.. Have lost on some trade as well, but the gains have far outweighed the losses. I don’t buy “the market” I research stocks and buy what shows value, I set a buy limit and a sell limit. Personally, I think the market is too volatile for a buy and hold strategy at this point in my life. If I was a bit older I would be tending to go more solid dividend stocks and be less concerned with capital growth. Whilst I am younger and earning a decent wage I can take a riskier (minimizing those risks of course) strategy. I also think Shares, Property and Precious Metals are all going to go lower during this continuing crisis.

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Andrew Schilg October 18, 2011 at 2:09 pm

By the way Stillgotshoeson, there are two Andrews that made comments on this article, I was the first that wrote on ‘October 15, 2011 at 9:37 am’.

Have not made the same gains as you but share similar beliefs towards the market. Feel free to add me on Facebook if you are interested in sharing views on stocks.

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Rohan McDowall October 15, 2011 at 8:43 pm

Stamp duty and legal fees make it difficult to sell out of a property investment and get back in. Selling out will cost a lot (the emailer paid near 40K of stamp duty to the government… he is not 10K down but rather 50K down + 10K for other fees.).
Hold my man and make the best of it.

Ro

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Richmond October 16, 2011 at 6:19 am

I found more to this article on property vs shares then i ever had. What striked me the most was the perfect enviroment over the past 25 years realestate has had to flourish;that and how people can get caught up in sentiment rather then logic. I think now is a good time to consider the intrinsic value of a asset rather then the emotional one!

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Carey October 17, 2011 at 11:58 am

Hi Scott,

I’ve been dithering about selling my apartment for some time now, as I too hate being a landlord, but just can’t decide whether it’s the right time. One reason being that the market hasn’t risen that much since I purchased in 2004. I’m curious to read …”Thanks to the property boom she’ll trouser close to a hundred grand, and she hated the hassle of being a landlord.”

A hundred grand?? really??

I purchased near Manly in Sydney.

regards,

Carey

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David October 17, 2011 at 7:19 pm

Scott comparing your girlfriend to Donald Trump but with more hair… Brilliant financial tactic!!!

Saying that will…

-Save you on the cost of a wedding.
-Save you on rent/loan payments (you will be in the dog house with Buffett).

I look forward to your next article… assuming your girlfriend hasn’t already killed you.

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Jules October 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm

The key to any investment strategy is RESEARCH. When it comes to stocks as long as your defensive strategies are put in place and you are following your trading plan; you can certainly outperform the market (and bank interest).

Knowledge is power; not accepting everything the media says.

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jazz October 24, 2011 at 11:58 am

Your girlfriend did the right thing cashing out of property. No one ever made a loss taking a nice big profit! Good Luck to her! Things have changed and continue to change for every investment class in Australia. It takes a lot to switch strategies. I’m not entirely convinced the CGT free family home is, over all, the best investment by the time you count non deductable interest paid over 30 years? Hard to tell what the best investment is right now.

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Maree November 14, 2011 at 11:03 am

Would you please tell me the web site where houses have been listed that haven’t been able to sell for a long time, in Perth W.A.
Thankyou,
Maree

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